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Posted: June 02, 2009, 10:31 am Quote

Winnie the Pooh fans.....  Heeeeeeeeeeee's Baaaaaaa-aaaaaack!

Quoting Entertainment Weekly Online:

http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/06/winnie-the-pooh-movie-disney.html

Winnie the Pooh movie on tap at Disney
Jun 2, 2009, 02:55 AM | by Mandi Bierly

Disney is planning a new hand-drawn animated Winnie the Pooh feature film to hit theaters in spring 2011. According to The Hollywood Reporter, the project is one of many that will be announced Tuesday at the Licensing International Expo in Las Vegas. Disney is also said to be plotting a theatrical re-release of Toy Story and Toy Story 2 in 3-D this October as a tease for next summer's Toy Story 3, as well as the Oct. 6 Blu-ray release of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

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Posted: June 02, 2009, 11:47 am Quote

Oh, Bother!  Rich is at it again!  This should be a great movie... however... two of it's most wonderful voices are gone from us.... who is going to do my Piglet?

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Posted: Feb. 26, 2011, 12:56 pm Quote

Now it's postponed to a July 15, 2011 release.  Here on Ain't It Cool News.com is the movie poster.  Are you impressed by it?

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48643

Forewarning:  The Comments following the poster can and are filled with crude words and means of expression.  If that offends you, skip the Comments.

I asked "Are you impressed by it?" and I am mystified by it.  It doesn't "speak" "Family movie goers, come see this Disney movie in July!" to me.  It just looks like the Pooh characters floating on heaven knows what (folks on Ain't It Cool News express what they think it is crudely, but I do see why they'd think that...), and has a date on it, and that's it.  You just look at it, and that's it, at least that's what I'm thinking when I see it.  No anticipation, no eagerness, no fun....  Even the characters aren't looking you in the eye and making eye contact, so to speak. Huh????

The folks at Disney Studios under studio head Rich Ross (formerly of Disney Channel) hired a movie promotion head who'd never promoted movies before, but does have high level experience promoting things like Coca-Cola.  Ever since movies that really should have done well at the box office have done mediocre... Folks who went anyway claim the movies are much better than their promotional efforts.  

We may have this going on with a now very iconic Disney character, Winnie the Pooh.  

It could be the movie itself will be charming and entertaining for you and your family as you'd hope a Disney theatrical movie about Winnie the Pooh would be.  So hold off judgement....  There's still time for a tweaked and enhanced promotional approach between now and July 15, 2011.

Your thoughts?




No official Disney promotional website yet, but Google the movie (make sure you add "2011" to it) and there are sites that show the trailers, have who is who in the cast, etc.

Such as Internet Movie Database.com, but there are others.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1449283/
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Posted: April 02, 2011, 11:31 am Quote

Disney released another clip from it's "Winnie the Pooh" movie…. uh…. see what you think, and if it makes you want to buy a ticket when it comes to theaters July 15, 2011.  

http://www.diszine.com/content....he-pooh

I think the Disney Studios promotion department has no idea what it's doing.  I get the little joke in the clip, but if this is a teaser for the whole movie, I'd rather just find the original '60s Disney movie of this and enjoy that, because under Walt Disney himself that movie was a delight.  This one?  Uh.....  

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.  Some movies if you regurgitate them, the originals stay the gold standard and the repeats and new tellings of it are the substandard.  Just sayin'....  

What do you think?
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Posted: April 07, 2011, 8:42 am Quote

This site, and others, has some still images and concept art from a new Disney Animation short cartoon "The Ballad of Nessie", set to show in front of "Winnie the Pooh" feature animated film in July 2011.  Take a look at the link, and read Comments....

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=75844

I think the first Comment is close to right on "looks like Figment" (the beloved character that used to be at Journey to Imagination at Epcot at WDW).  

I also think it looks a little like Elliot the dragon in "Pete's Dragon" Disney live action-animation feature length movie from the 1970s.
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Posted: July 13, 2011, 7:38 am Quote

Finally!  A well-reviewed Disney family movie!

76% Fresh at Rotten Tomatoes.com !

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/winnie_the_pooh_2011/

Maybe 76% +/- isn't as stellar as the also opening July 15, 2011 final "Harry Potter" movie is getting (in the 90's Fresh type scores) but 76% +/- Fresh sure beats the 30's score Rotten that both "Pirates of the Caribbean 4: On Stranger Tides" and "Cars 2" got over at Rotten Tomatoes.  Take your good and positive news where you can find it.

Another major set of plusses that go towards "Winnie the Pooh" is that parts of it are, in fact, traditional Disney hand-drawn animation with other parts receiving computer assists and some CGI, it takes inspiration from the original published AA Milne book (so is more or less relying on the original source and not contrived stories ) and resembles the 1960-era Walt Disney version of "Winnie the Pooh" in that it features book pages, text, pages turning.

The voice of Winnie the Pooh is Jim Cummings.  Producer includes Don Hahn ("Beauty and the Beast" and other 1990s return to Golden Age Disney animated movie classics ).

And you might not ordinarily think of this as a plus, but consider:  Disney may have done ten jillion tons of merchandising and direct to DVD videos and movie theater sequels of "Winnie the Pooh"-anything in the past, but hasn't done a feature film in several years.  That there's been a break of years is a little on the refreshing side....  Maybe new audiences are fresh for a new yet traditional and faithful version of the classic characters and story scenarios.  

And consider:  We live in strident times.  Politics.  The costs of gasoline, food and healthcare going up.  Long commutes to and from work.  Pressures from work and schools and schedules....  If you're looking to movie theaters as an oasis and respite from all of that, there are choices, including Disney choices for Disney fans.  And the calm mellow easy on the mind and heart and spirit choice, nothing noisy, splashy, apocalyptic, no 3-D or IMAX 3-D inflated ticket prices for it....  Something the whole Disney-loving family can attend and be happy with...  Very well might be "Winnie the Pooh".  

"Winnie the Pooh" as a stress reliever, as respite, as a movie version of a teddy bear to hug in stressful times, even for adults?  Yeah, it could be, it could happen..... Think about it.

It's clear that the gorilla in the room major movie competition also opening this weekend July 15 is the final of them all "Harry Potter" movie, in 2-D, 3-D and IMAX 3-D.  Too bad Disney Studios film calendar scheduler put the gentle sweet "Winnie the Pooh" opening up against the epic "Harry Potter" finale on the same weekend.  

And the Disney-cynical among us will point to the major reason Disney reissues some titles or remakes some titles (as in "Cars 2" "Toy Story 3", etc.) to theaters:  Merchandise sales get goosed up.  :dollar:

If you can get past all of those ideas, Disney will have three movies in theaters at the same time, POTC 4, "Cars 2" and new offering "Winnie the Pooh".  And from the reviews and press it's getting (search via Google News for the movie's title), "Winnie" is the winner of those three, an audience pleaser that Disney returns to it's own roots to produce.  Despite poor reviews POTC 4 is over $1 billion in worldwide box office and "Cars 2" is doing well.  Earlier this year a surprise hit for Disney was "Gnomeo and Juliet".  Though it can be up and down, Disney this year and this summer, on balance, is on a successful roll.  Will "Winnie the Pooh" keep that roll rolling?  If the reviews and the recent past are indicators, even up against "Harry Potter", then yes. :pixiedust:




Since our site is a lot less busy than it used to be, I'm not going to be putting a lot of effort into following the success of "Winnie the Pooh" ongoing.

If you are a parent looking for moral and content guidance, or a movie goer looking to not waste the price of a movie ticket here are some sites to head to on and after Friday, July 15, head to Google and "search", then look for the movie title.

Rotten Tomatoes.com (see link above)  So far has a 76% Fresh review score which can change as more reviews get posted, the movie already played in March-April 2011 in England, so you'll see a lot of U.K. reviews from that point in time.

Kids in Mind

Metacritic

US Conference of Catholic Bishops no longer posts movie reviews, but on their site they refer people to Catholic News Service to look for parental guidance movie reviews.

Plugged In Online, a media review service of Dr. Charles Dobson's Focus on the Family

Movie Mom Nell Minow on Beliefnet.com

Enjoy !
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Posted: July 13, 2011, 8:28 am Quote

Some other websites for you:

Box Office Mojo.com, it's already played in Europe and earned $6+ million there, production budget unknown.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=winniethepooh.htm

Internet Movie Database:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1449283/

Official Disney movie promotional website (turn your audio up so you can hear the website audio when you arrive) :

http://disney.go.com/pooh/



On Box Office Mojo.com's Box Office Derby Forum, Weekend Predictions Topic "Winnie the Pooh" is flying under radar, there are reports that the movie isn't even occupying theater auditoriums to itself, at night in some theaters the theater operator is switching to more adult movies than family-child oriented "Winnie the Pooh".  Check theater listings for times carefully....if you were hoping to go in the evening or non-matinee' hours showtimes, you might be out of luck at a few theaters.  Check around.

They are also predicting a $6 million-$8 million Opening Weekend for "Winnie the Pooh".
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Posted: July 16, 2011, 10:45 am Quote

Poor willy nilly silly ol' Pooh bear.  Why did the holder of your licensing, Disney, decide to open your new movie on the same weekend as the final "Harry Potter" movie?

'Cause anyone with the ability to Google News around will know that "Harry Potter 8" aka "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2" is a box office record setting juggernaut, both US domestically and internationally.  "Harry Potter" is beyond the "gorilla in the room" analogy....the box office records it's setting raise the bar higher for any other movie this year or in the future to top it, gauntlet thrown down in challenge to other studios'.  Any other movies also opening this weekend, big or small, are going to be lost within the mass media movie press and hype machines by comparison.

A gentle sweet hunny-loving ol' Pooh bear, pink Piglet, bouncy Tigger, morose Eeyore, gallant Christopher Robin, Rabbit, Owl, Kanga and baby Roo and the entire "Pooh characters" roster of stars are all lost in the summer blockbuster movie clash of the titans this particular opening weekend for both "Winnie the Pooh" and "Harry Potter 8".

Nikki Finke, columnist and blogger for Deadline: Hollywood has these estimated US box office statistics and weekend gross predictions for "Winnie the Pooh":

6. Winnie The Pooh (Disney) NEW [2,405 Theaters]
Friday $2.6M, Estimated Weekend $8M

That "6." means Pooh potentially won't even be in the Top Five in the US this weekend.  "Cars 2" from Disney-Pixar is an older movie of Disney's still playing but is predicted to earn more than silly ol' Pooh bear will on the same weekend.

But with that said....

Not everyone is into Transformers or Harry Potters or anything else playing currently. Maybe they've been there, done that, already.  But also maybe they want to take their littler children out for a traditional-type gentle sweet (and short, around an hour +/- ) familiar Disney family film.  You know. An alternative to what else is playing.

And for those wanting that gentler alternative, which isn't playing in 3-D or IMAX 3-D, has ticket prices that are affordable, and little kids don't need 3-D glasses to see the movie, and it's Disney, after all.....  AND it's getting really excellent reviews at Rotten Tomatoes.com (in the 80's Fresh ) while many other Disney movies that opened so far in 2011 (including Cars 2 and POTC 4 ) all got Rotten reviews at RT.com.....

As long as "Winnie the Pooh" earns more than it took to make it, and is profitable, then it doesn't have to be literally #1 or a blockbuster in order to win over audiences hearts and be a money-maker for Disney Studios.  Not all movies are to all tastes, so let the crowds flock to the super-dee-duper blockbusters....  Eeyore might need some extra hugs, we all know how Eeyore can be.  

But don't misinterpret the movie box office results this weekend: Disney has that small, niche-interest, gentle, family-friendly, traditionalist-type movie out in theaters for the smaller numbers of audience folks who would be delighted to be served by that.  These audience members know who they are, and appreciate a film such as "Winnie the Pooh" being made for them and their young children, and will buy tickets accordingly.

It's well-reviewed.  :thumbsup:   Check out link, posted earlier, to Rotten Tomatoes.com.



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Posted: July 17, 2011, 12:11 pm Quote

"Harry Potter 8" aka "HP/Deathly Hallows Pt. 2" is on a record-breaking juggernaut.  It's so #1 this opening weekend it's melting everything else down.  This Topic is about "Winnie the Pooh" movie, but HP is a factor in how "Pooh" is doing.

Nikki Finke at Deadline Hollywood is not reporting much about "Pooh", but this is her latest estimate on how "Pooh" will fare this weekend.  Still out of the Top 5 in the US, and lower numbers than I posted earlier for total weekend.

6. Winnie The Pooh (Disney) NEW [2,405 Theaters]
Friday $2.9M, Saturday $2.6M, Weekend $7.5M

Box Office Mojo webpage for "Winnie the Pooh":

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=winniethepooh.htm

Estimates:

Domestic:
 $8,000,000
   55.3%
+ Foreign:
 $6,460,000
   44.7%

= Worldwide:
 $14,460,000
 

Opened at just 2,405 US theaters.

Foreign box office chart:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies....ooh.htm


According to BoxOfficeMojo.com the production budget for "Winnie the Pooh", despite parts of it being hand-drawn/traditionally drawn, is $30 million.  It opened first in Belgium on April 6, 2011 and has played around the world already, in fact the US is one of the last countries to see the movie open.  In some countries of the world it's already finished it's run in theaters.

Less than $15 million worldwide since April 6, 2011 and a production budget of $30 million... not a pretty sight.  (Do the math.)

And that "Pooh" opened in the US the same weekend as "Harry Potter 8" juggernaut...  also not a pretty sight.

One wonders "What was Disney thinking by scheduling "Winnie the Pooh" to open last worldwide in the US on the same weekend as the final "Harry Potter" sequel?

Disney has, since CEO Robert Iger either fired or he quit, a "quit-fire", longtime Disney Studio head Dick Cook a couple of years ago, and installed as Disney Studios President Richard Rich, formerly of Disney Channel, who in turn hired movie promotion staff with more experience promoting, literally, Coca-Cola than major motion pictures, Disney has had major hit and miss box office success.  Blockbusters like "Alice in Wonderland" and "Toy Story 3" and "Pirates of the Caribbean 4: On Stranger Tides" earn mega-bucks worldwide.  Other movies, including several by Jerry Bruckheimer, do medium or even poorly.  Marketing soda is not the same as marketing movies, even though it's all "marketing".  Scheduling movies to open on certain dates can mean opening against more or less serious competition from other studios, too.  

All movie making is a gamble.  

But what a potential disappointment that subject matter such as a new "Winnie the Pooh" movie that may mean a new story, not a remake of the 1960s one by Walt Disney and "The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh" compilation into a feature film in 1977, but still told, and drawn, in traditional "old-school" ways, is ending up not even making, since April 6, 2011 in Belgium, enough to cover it's costs.

As for Rotten Tomatoes reviews :  The score now for "Winnie the Pooh" has ascended remarkably well....  no longer in the 70s or even 80s Fresh.... it's 91% Fresh !  Yes, it's true!

Also....for the year 2011 to date, of all the movies Disney has released this year, "Winnie the Pooh" is only one of two scored "Fresh" by Rotten Tomatoes, and is the best reviewed Disney movie of the year!

Chart:

Winnie the Pooh 91% Fresh
African Cats 66% Fresh

Gnomeo and Juliet 55% Rotten
Mars Needs Moms 35% Rotten
Cars 2 34% Rotten
Prom 34% Rotten
POTC 4 33% Rotten
I Am Number Four 30% Rotten
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