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Posted: Feb. 01, 2012, 11:06 am Quote

I bet the ballroom scene is stunning, it ranks right up there with some of the best hand-drawn animation I've ever seen.

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For a big change:  This time the 3-D is effectively used, makes the movie even better and you know BatB is one of Disney modern era's best most outstanding animated feature films....3-D enhances what's there, but the greatness of this movie is a standout in 2012.

Steep price to go see it for a matinee' at $11.25 per adult person at our local theater.  Regular suburban movie theater equipped with the "K"-type newer digital projection system, so we saw it in "state of the art", but not in IMAX. It's a couple of bucks more than $11.25/per person to see a night time show.  Ouch!   :dollar:  :hurt:  Matinee' prices ain't what they used to be, but then again the price of a gallon of unleaded gasoline ain't what it used to be either.  Go figure.

Once you swallow the steep price of admission the 3-D version of BatB is worth it, worth it, worth it.  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

The newer type of 3-D, applied in a quality way, doesn't float anything out into the audience to float over anyone's heads that you feel you can reach out and touch.  Not like that at all.

In BatB 3-D the effect extrudes the background farther back, you do get Walt's multilane camera effect, layers of overlay of background but also you feel:  How far back the snow covered woods and road in the woods goes, how big that castle the Beast lives in is via how far back corridors go, the massive size and scale of the castle's central staircase.

You also see because there's more depth perception just how good Disney's artists were at the time, particularly in background paintings.  When you see a landscape vista of wintry mountains, trees, snow and fog over the snow, you feel as if you're really there, plus it's a detail that's missed when watching BatB in regular 2-D "I didn't know the background looked like THAT, that's beautiful!"-kind of an observation.

Belle finishes her first dinner (follows "Be Our Guest") and wants to explore the castle where she'll be living for awhile.  She comes upon a red carpeted staircase.  In the 3-D version, the carpet is CGI and there are actually some worn spots on the carpet along the edges of stairs.  Belle's father when he first arrives is offered tea and the Master's chair to sit in, in the 3-D version the fabric of the chair back is in CGI and is satin and you can "tell" it's real fabric.  Other views of the chair in the same movie look hand drawn animation and nothing special...

Which leads me...

In the 3-D version you can see more readily that back in the late 1980s-early 1990s when BatB first came out they were rushed to as Larry the Cable Guy would say "G'it 'er done!" so they could release this movie on time to theaters.  With the 3-D movie in layers/extruded and this new "K"-type digital projection system, you can notice details not noticeable back in BatB's original theatrical run or many versions on VHS and DVD or if it's on Blu-Ray maybe these details are noticeable on an HD TV.  

So for instance you notice that Belle's fingers are all tapered gracefully like a lady who has long manicured nails, and sometimes the animators drew in fingernails for her, sometimes fingernails with polish, and sometimes no nails.  Dittoes for her father, sometimes he has fingernails, sometimes not.  Fabric on backs of chairs looks either like real fabric (CGI) or merely drawn.  Depends on how much detail, continuity, and time the original animators had to "Git 'er done".  

Feeling like you're in the woods, town, or castle with Belle, Beast, her Dad, Gaston, and the other characters is wonderful in 3-D.  Yes, the famous ballroom scene looks great in 3-D, but that comes 'way after going "Wow!" "Wow!" "Wow!" all through the parts of the movie before then. The revival scene is very well done at the end.  The whole movie is hugely enhanced.

I saw an article online about generally this new trend of studios to rerelease classic movies from their vaults but in 3-D.  George Lucas Feb. 10, 2012 is coming out with an IMAX 3-D version of "Star Wars Episode I -- The Phantom Menace", and a 3-D version of James Cameron's "Titanic" is coming soon as well.  The question is:  Are the Hollywood studios doing this because they think audiences love 3-D?  Or because some of their more recent movies are lousy (2011 was a bad box office year with crowds and profits down vs. prior years) and they know movies from their vaults are proven crowd-pleasers, just jazz them up a bit by reprocessing them in 3-D and they can make a bigger profit than if they made a new movie?  

With BatB you think, "Aw, I have that on home video already (when was the last time you watched it, hmmm....? ) and I know every line already, and 3-D is a money ripoff gimmick..."  until you actually take that chance and leap of faith and pay the bucks (ouch!  :dollar:  :hurt: ) to go see it.  Yeah you recite and sing every line along with them on the screen....  But the 3-D is not a gimmick ripoff with this particular movie.  It's exceptionally well done, enhances an already outstanding animated film-Disney musical, reminds you of Disney's former glory days in animation.

Well worth your time to see this.  Skimp on something else to offset the 3-D ticket prices.  You will not regret it.

The cartoon short is about the characters in Disney animation's more recent success "Tangled" getting married.  It's also well worth your time.  It's funny and sweet.

Trailers for "Brave", Disney-Pixar's animated film for June 2012 looks pretty good.  Pixar had a stumble in 2011 with "Cars 2", the reviews were mostly bad for that movie even though it made a US and worldwide profit.  "Brave" in animation is Pixar's way to come back from that.  Pixar trailers always seem like taking a chance on buying a ticket to that movie is an iffy proposition, then when you actually see the movie it's enchanting, adventurous, funny, the CGI animation goes to new technical and artistic levels, and it turns out to be a superb film.  I'm hoping that will be true for "Brave".

Trailer for re-release in September in 3-D of "Finding Nemo":  Gonna look great!  Circle the date on your going out to the movies calendar, will be well worth it, and we know "Finding Nemo" is one of Pixar's best films.

One thing to notice about "BatB":  No fart jokes or crude body humor jokes or situations in it.  Back in the late 1980s-early 1990s era that simply wasn't done in family movies of that era, as it's done today.  I didn't miss the crudeness jokes.  Something to think about re: today's movies and what they uniformly feel they "have" to include...no, it isn't necessary to include those!

Closing credits:  Yes, stay through them.  You hear Celine Dion and Peabo Bryson singing, and the images are of the original sketches for all the characters, the pencil sketches, in 3-D.  Inspire an artist in your family with this.  Very awesome and well done.

Go see "Beauty & the Beast 3-D" while you can, swallow hard about those ticket prices, and you'll see a movie that is hugely entertaining in it's own right, 3-D simply enhances a great thing and makes it better.   :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

And for Valentine's Day, if you can't get to a Disney park to celebrate the romantic aspects of Disney there, at least Disney brings the romance and magic  :pixiedust:  :hearts: to you in theaters with BatB 3-D.... Disney date night with the one you love, in 3-D, noticing special details due to the 3-D and the new digital projection technology.... Just saying'..... :pixiedust:  :hearts:
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