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Posted: June 24, 2011, 1:38 am Quote

Sad thing for Pixar this year, for the first time since 1995 one of their movies scores a Rotten 39% @ Rotten Tomatoes.com.... and then John Lasseter (about cars that use petroleum products, two movies like that) feels he has to punch at Big Oil at the Wall Street Journal. Wazzup w/that, John?

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakea....tune-up

Opening day..... do you support Pixar?  Buy a ticket !  Enjoy, I hope the movie is better than these terrible reviews at Rotten Tomatoes.

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Posted: June 24, 2011, 6:48 pm Quote

RottenTomatoes.com score now down to a whopping 33% Rotten.

Dear Husband RichKoster, site admin of Disney Echo, and I just got back from a 2:30 pm 2-D matinee.

And the verdict...

Yes, "Cars 2" IS that bad.

Mostly it's tedious in story and plot.  Hard to follow, and definitely hard to care about.  There's a lot of rushing here and there, and all I could think was "Why..."

Animation, as usual is top notch.  My favorite foreign city was London, it looked VERY photo-realistic.  Cinematography also was superb.

Musical score not impressive.

Too much trying to be just like James Bond movies, too. I couldn't relate.

Tow Mater is the true leading character.

Not quite forgotten are the truly poignant scenes of past, truly outstanding, Pixar films, such as the end of "Toy Story 3", the beginning of "Up", Eve brings "Wall-E" to life at the end.  Nothing poignant or tear-shedding moving the heart and emotions in "Cars 2", I'm sorry to observe.

I could tell where there were scenes or compositions that would have "stood out" in 3-D.  It doesn't matter in 2-D.  A gimmick such as IMAX or 3-D or IMAX 3-D doesn't aid the story or plot being any better than it is.  

Major disappointment.

It could be that since 1995 and "Toy Story" Pixar's long streak of excellence had to take a break sometime and be just average instead of each film hitting it more and more out of the ballpark.  They've plateau'ed, Pixar has, not only plateauing but a real bad stumble in "Cars 2".

You pick yourself up, dust yourself off, take the lumps, learn from them, regroup, never give up, try harder and better next time.  Pixar will rise and be great again.  This is a mere reality check.  Walt Disney once said not only "You can't top pigs with pigs" but also (paraphrasing) that a kick in the teeth sometimes can be the best thing that ever happened to you, in that you realize failure and what it takes to start over or learn from mistakes.

They intend to sequelize "Monsters, Inc."  Heaven healp Pixar to learn what went wrong in sequelizing "Cars" and help them do the opposite!

If you don't believe me or the reviews and gotta see "Cars 2":  

Pick an afternoon matinee' and see if your local theaters offer weekday matinee' price breaks.  Our AMC theater Mon-Thu afternoons offers $5 for everyone admission, which is a bargain these days.  Look for "deals" like that.  Don't pay full matinee' or evening prices, and don't bother with 3-D or IMAX 3-D.  If you go on weekend matinee's that will cost more, but check at your local theaters.

The first "Cars" might not have been everyone's favorite, but it had heart, better music, showed off America.  If you want to save your money, just watch "Cars" or any other Pixar movie instead of "Cars 2".

Positive elements:  You see Pixar animate foreign cultures, and they get a lot of the scenery or aspects of foreign culture right.  Educational.  In fact in Japan and Italy you might get a feel for what the new Carsland autopia attraction will be like at Disney's California Adventure next to Disneyland when it opens next year or two years from now.  Animation is very good.  A tribute to "The Deadliest Catch" on Discovery Channel in they animate the Bering Sea, the ship Northwestern (down to the crab pots) and have the real voice of Captain Sig Hansen at the start of the movie.  A tribute to the late Paul Newman as Doc Hudson in the first "Cars".  A tribute to the late George Carlin who voiced the VW mini-bus: His license plate number are the date of his real life birthday.  And the animation and set design is very photorealistic.  In London look for a banner on the side of the race course "Lassetyre" (Lasseter, named after John Lasseter, the director.)  In Paris scenes twice in the movie in different sections look for Gaston's sign, the setting of "Ratatouille".  John Ratzenberger is Pixar's "good luck charm" and the only voice actor cast consistently in all Pixar animated films, he's in the beginning and end as the Mack truck in Radiator Springs, but all too briefly.  At the end, in Radiator Springs, look for the Hidden Mickey at the drive-in spire as the camera tilts down.

Positive element:  Cartoon short from "Toy Story Toon" of "Hawaiian Vacation" is VERY cute, leads off the main movie.  You do want to be seated in time for the cartoon short.  It was 'way better than the movie itself.

Downside for parents:  The mom next to me had to cuddle her little boy in her lap for awhile when he came walking to her during the movie, about thirty minutes before the movie was over, and asked "Can we go now?"  There was a lot of escorting down stadium seating steps of young children by parents, either pottie time or an excuse to get up and leave this dull movie for awhile.

I started checking the time every fifteen minutes, and late discovered it was inadvertently increasing to every 5-7 minutes.  

For conservatives:  There is a plot device of being against "big oil" and more for biofuels and alternative fuels.  Big oil bad, evil.  Biofuels and alternative fuels good.  Overwhelmingly the reason to truly stay away from "Cars 2" are the plot and story are tedious.  The true reason to stay away is that "Cars 2" is a bore.  It's politically annoying to have this "big oil is bad" message in the movie, but it's soft-pedaled.  

There is NO reason to stay through the closing credits to the end for any Easter Eggs, none there.  The closing credits are clever but not as charming as other Pixar movies.

Better luck next time, Pixar.

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My review: IT STINKS!

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Rotten Tomatoes Rotten score is now 33%, matching at 33% Rotten Disney's other live-action movie now in release "Pirates of the Caribbean 4: On Stranger Tides".

There still is money to be made, despite the reviews.  Will "Cars 2" rake some in (not only the merchandising, but at the box office in the US and worldwide ) ?  POTC 4 also got crummy scores from Rotten Tomatoes and is now the 9th biggest box office movie worldwide.  Some people flock, no matter the reviews, and overseas they love 3-D and IMAX 3-D and are willing to pay those prices for a proven franchise (POTC) or "brand" (Pixar).  Like Blanche du Bois in Tennessee Williams "A Streetcar Named Desire", Disney and other Hollywood studios see the future as appealing to overseas tastes, and in that they are "depending upon the kindness of strangers" to fill their bottom line when it might seem American audiences won't.  In this case the "strangers" are all those movie-going folks in other countries than the US.

But for now, in the US.....

From Variety estimated opening day and prospective box office for "Cars 2" opening weekend, $8.3 million at 4,115 locations in US, prospective $60 million +/- opening weekend.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118039101

From Box Office Mojo.com, the prospects of "Cars 2" being successful at the box office, quoting:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3192&p=.htm

Forecast: How Much Mileage Will Pixar Get Out of 'Cars 2?'
by Brandon Gray
June 23, 2011

This weekend, Cars 2 zips into 4,115 locations, topping Toy Story 3's 4,028 as the broadest Pixar launch yet, though its estimated screen count is in the same 7,000 range. Cars 2's 2,508 3D location count (including 120 IMAX venues) is only slightly higher than Toy Story 3's 2,463. Also opening nationwide, Bad Teacher shows up on around 3,800 screens at 3,049 locations.

Cars 2 marks Pixar's first sequel to something other than Toy Story, but, while the first Cars was presumably a favorite among tykes, it wasn't beloved by everyone else. It debuted to $60.1 million five years ago and closed with $244.1 million, or the equivalent of $72 million and $293 million adjusted for ticket price inflation. However, people weren't clamoring for a sequel like they were with the Toy Story movies. Cars 2 seems like the first time that Pixar hasn't targeted everyone. In its marketing, the movie comes off as a kids-only affair, pushing the Mater character into pole position with some vague spy action angle, and it will rely on the Pixar name to carry the day with the rest of the family or people without children.

The merchandising success of the first Cars seems to be the impetus behind Cars 2 (after all, its box office was second-tier for Pixar). This franchise was tailor-made for toy-making, and Cars 2 offers more toy possibilities. If that's the case, though, that contradicts Pixar's story-driven studio persona. Based on what's been displayed, Cars 2 doesn't look like a story that needed to be told nor a story that organically grew out of the first movie. In fact, the genre has shifted gears from a change-of-pace, Doc Hollywood-type comedy to a globe-trotting spy comedy, giving it a Speed Racer sheen and extra kiddie skew. For better or worse, Cars 2 comes off as a lark (albeit with a patience-trying running time of one hour and 53 minutes).

What's more, Cars 2's international storyline seems motivated by expanding the foreign audience more than anything else. At $218 million, Cars was Pixar's third lowest-grossing movie overseas, ahead of only the first Toy Story and A Bug's Life. Cars 2 should zoom past its predecessor overseas, but dumping the NASCAR theme may not help domestic playability.

Cars and Cars 2 stand out as Pixar's only movies set outside of a human context. These modes of transportation have replaced what they were designed to transport with no explanation. It's awkward in concept, but kids love cars and get a kick out of them doing human-like things. Cars 2, though, anthropomorphizes planes as well in its ads, which makes one wonder how uncomfortable it must be for the planes to have cars lodged in their bowels. And what other modes of transportation are sentient in this previously cars-only universe? Must be tough to be a train in that world, being a slave to the rails and having cars in your caboose.

Ultimately, Cars 2's appeal seems akin to Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs, another animated 3D sequel which made $196.6 million two years ago. The lukewarm reception to Kung Fu Panda 2 (also in 3D) isn't encouraging. However, with an 11 for 11 winning streak so far, it's hard to bet against Pixar. Up until now, the company has been best-in-class at the box office.

Meanwhile, Bad Teacher counter-programs with the promise of outrageous comedy. Its title is blunt, and its concept is easily understood, relatable and potentially topical, given the nation's education fiasco (whether the movie has the balls to give a proper indictment or not is another question). The ads, though, may not have gone far enough, as the marketers chose to emphasize a pedestrian dodgeball scene. Cameron Diaz seems to channel Billy Bob Thornton, who starred in the similar comedies Bad Santa, Bad News Bears and Mr. Woodcock, though her track record is spotty.

In Box Office Mojo's "when will you see it" polling, Cars 2's results didn't promise a smooth ride. With just over 30 percent voting to see it on opening weekend, its tracking was a bit worse than Kung Fu Panda 2 (31.2 percent) and even further behind the first Cars (34.6 percent). However, it was stronger than Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs (26.5 percent). Bad Teacher chalked up a solid 18.4 percent "opening weekend" score, which was greater than Get Him to the Greek, Easy A and even Bridesmaids. Based on these and other pre-weekend indicators and historical antecedents, here's how the weekend might play out:

The Forecast, June 24-26


1. Cars 2 - $59 million

2. Bad Teacher - $22.5 million

3. Green Lantern - $18.5 million

4. Super 8 - $12.5 million

5. Mr. Popper's Penguins - $11 million

Bar for Success


Cars 2 is no Toy Story 3, but it needs to at least be on par with Shrek Forever After and Up adjusted for ticket-price inflation (over $70 million) to tone down disappointment. To match the opening weekend attendance of the first Cars, though, it will likely need over $80 million.


End of quoted article.

From Carol:  You have to account that vs. 2006 (when "Cars" came out) a dollar doesn't buy as much today as it did then, and the price of tickets was different then vs. now, and we didn't have all the 3-D and IMAX 3-D then as we do now that rakes in even more money at the box office and gives audiences options in viewing experience that cost more.  So to achieve then exceed the equivalent to 2006's "Cars" and compare apples to apples regarding ticket price inflation in five years time between films, "Cars 2" needs to earn not $60.1 million Opening Weekend and $294 million in it's run in the US, but more than that such as $72 million and $293 million adjusted for ticket price inflation.  Then to exceed "Cars" to earn $80+ million.
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Quote (CarolKoster @ June 25, 2011, 9:13 am)
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From Box Office Mojo.com, the prospects of "Cars 2" being successful at the box office, quoting:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3192&p=.htm

Forecast: How Much Mileage Will Pixar Get Out of 'Cars 2?'
by Brandon Gray
June 23, 2011

This weekend, Cars 2 zips into 4,115 locations, topping Toy Story 3's 4,028 as the broadest Pixar launch yet, though its estimated screen count is in the same 7,000 range. Cars 2's 2,508 3D location count (including 120 IMAX venues) is only slightly higher than Toy Story 3's 2,463. Also opening nationwide, Bad Teacher shows up on around 3,800 screens at 3,049 locations.

Cars 2 marks Pixar's first sequel to something other than Toy Story, but, while the first Cars was presumably a favorite among tykes, it wasn't beloved by everyone else. It debuted to $60.1 million five years ago and closed with $244.1 million, or the equivalent of $72 million and $293 million adjusted for ticket price inflation. However, people weren't clamoring for a sequel like they were with the Toy Story movies. Cars 2 seems like the first time that Pixar hasn't targeted everyone. In its marketing, the movie comes off as a kids-only affair, pushing the Mater character into pole position with some vague spy action angle, and it will rely on the Pixar name to carry the day with the rest of the family or people without children.

The merchandising success of the first Cars seems to be the impetus behind Cars 2 (after all, its box office was second-tier for Pixar). This franchise was tailor-made for toy-making, and Cars 2 offers more toy possibilities. If that's the case, though, that contradicts Pixar's story-driven studio persona. Based on what's been displayed, Cars 2 doesn't look like a story that needed to be told nor a story that organically grew out of the first movie. In fact, the genre has shifted gears from a change-of-pace, Doc Hollywood-type comedy to a globe-trotting spy comedy, giving it a Speed Racer sheen and extra kiddie skew. For better or worse, Cars 2 comes off as a lark (albeit with a patience-trying running time of one hour and 53 minutes).

What's more, Cars 2's international storyline seems motivated by expanding the foreign audience more than anything else. At $218 million, Cars was Pixar's third lowest-grossing movie overseas, ahead of only the first Toy Story and A Bug's Life. Cars 2 should zoom past its predecessor overseas, but dumping the NASCAR theme may not help domestic playability.

Cars and Cars 2 stand out as Pixar's only movies set outside of a human context. These modes of transportation have replaced what they were designed to transport with no explanation. It's awkward in concept, but kids love cars and get a kick out of them doing human-like things. Cars 2, though, anthropomorphizes planes as well in its ads, which makes one wonder how uncomfortable it must be for the planes to have cars lodged in their bowels. And what other modes of transportation are sentient in this previously cars-only universe? Must be tough to be a train in that world, being a slave to the rails and having cars in your caboose.

Ultimately, Cars 2's appeal seems akin to Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs, another animated 3D sequel which made $196.6 million two years ago. The lukewarm reception to Kung Fu Panda 2 (also in 3D) isn't encouraging. However, with an 11 for 11 winning streak so far, it's hard to bet against Pixar. Up until now, the company has been best-in-class at the box office.

Meanwhile, Bad Teacher counter-programs with the promise of outrageous comedy. Its title is blunt, and its concept is easily understood, relatable and potentially topical, given the nation's education fiasco (whether the movie has the balls to give a proper indictment or not is another question). The ads, though, may not have gone far enough, as the marketers chose to emphasize a pedestrian dodgeball scene. Cameron Diaz seems to channel Billy Bob Thornton, who starred in the similar comedies Bad Santa, Bad News Bears and Mr. Woodcock, though her track record is spotty.

In Box Office Mojo's "when will you see it" polling, Cars 2's results didn't promise a smooth ride. With just over 30 percent voting to see it on opening weekend, its tracking was a bit worse than Kung Fu Panda 2 (31.2 percent) and even further behind the first Cars (34.6 percent). However, it was stronger than Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs (26.5 percent). Bad Teacher chalked up a solid 18.4 percent "opening weekend" score, which was greater than Get Him to the Greek, Easy A and even Bridesmaids. Based on these and other pre-weekend indicators and historical antecedents, here's how the weekend might play out:

The Forecast, June 24-26


1. Cars 2 - $59 million

2. Bad Teacher - $22.5 million

3. Green Lantern - $18.5 million

4. Super 8 - $12.5 million

5. Mr. Popper's Penguins - $11 million

Bar for Success


Cars 2 is no Toy Story 3, but it needs to at least be on par with Shrek Forever After and Up adjusted for ticket-price inflation (over $70 million) to tone down disappointment. To match the opening weekend attendance of the first Cars, though, it will likely need over $80 million.


End of quoted article.

From Carol:  You have to account that vs. 2006 (when "Cars" came out) a dollar doesn't buy as much today as it did then, and the price of tickets was different then vs. now, and we didn't have all the 3-D and IMAX 3-D then as we do now that rakes in even more money at the box office and gives audiences options in viewing experience that cost more.  So to achieve then exceed the equivalent to 2006's "Cars" and compare apples to apples regarding ticket price inflation in five years time between films, "Cars 2" needs to earn not $60.1 million Opening Weekend and $294 million in it's run in the US, but more than that such as $72 million and $293 million adjusted for ticket price inflation.  Then to exceed "Cars" to earn $80+ million.


"Cars 2" US Opening weekend around $68 million, not bad, but not at the suggested projection in the quoted article from BoxOfficeMojo.com to both meet and exceed what "Cars" did on it's Opening Weekend in 2006, taking into account five years worth of ticket price inflation, 3-D and IMAX 3-D ticket prices prevailing now vs. not so much in 2006, etc.  Refer to day to day US box office counts here:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=cars2.htm

"Cars 2" will make money, I'm confident of it, and though no published production costs or marketing costs are posted, yet, on BoxOfficeMojo.com it will be likely "Cars 2" will make money in the US and overseas. Particularly in the US on next weekend, Independence Day Weekend, when many families are on holiday and off work and have more opportunity and time to visit movie theaters.

:clapping:  :pixiedust:

People posting in the Crowd Reports Topic in the Box Office Derby Forum at Box Office Mojo.com are giving the movie good marks if not stellar marks, generally A- to B.

And how the Friday box office did, according to a BoxOfficeMojo.com columnist :


Quoting:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3194&p=.htm'

Friday Report: 'Cars 2' Warms Up
by Brandon Gray
June 25, 2011

On Friday, Pixar's reliability was on display again with the roll-out of Cars 2. The manufacturer's latest model posted an estimated $25.7 million out of the gate, but many moviegoers were hot for Bad Teacher as well.

Riding on approximately 7,700 screens at 4,115 locations, Cars 2 delivered the second highest-grossing opening day yet for a Pixar movie, behind Toy Story 3's $41.1 million, and the talking car sequel is poised for a weekend gross in the Pixar-typical $70 million range. The first Cars pulled in $19.7 million on its first day in June 2006, which led to a $60.1 million weekend. In terms of estimated attendance, though, Cars 2 was towards the back of the Pixar pack of the last decade, launching faster than only Up and Ratatouille.

Cars 2's run featured the 3D illusion at 2,508 locations (including 120 IMAX venues), and that accounted for close to 40 percent of the gross. The 3D share was even less than what Kung Fu Panda 2, Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides and Green Lantern posted in their unenthusiastic 3D debuts. For perspective, Toy Story 3's 3D share was 60 percent (with 2,463 3D venues), while Up's was 52 percent (with only 1,534 3D venues).

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That's just for Friday, Opening Day, June 24, 2011.
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Quoting on what relates to "Cars 2", full analysis column at the link looks at all movies playing this weekend.

http://www.deadline.com/2011....-friday

VA VROOM! 'Cars 2' Revs $68M Weekend; 'Bad Teacher' More Than Good For $31M
By NIKKI FINKE | Saturday June 25, 2011 @ 11:01pm PDT

SATURDAY PM/SUNDAY AM, 5TH UPDATE: After last weekend's disappointing outcome for Green Lantern, Summer 2011 returns with big-time North American grosses. But both Disney's Cars 2 and Sony's Bad Teacher cooled off Saturday after a hot Friday. Expect an overall moviegoing total of $176M, up +6% from last year. Here's the Top 10.

1. Cars 2 3D (Pixar/Disney) NEW [4,115 Theaters]
Friday $25.7M, Saturday $23.3M, Weekend $68M

Wow, even Pixar's clunker exceeded expectations, becoming Pixar's 12th straight No. 1 toon. Strange that the special studio parent/kids' tracking was only showing a $50M weekend for Cars 2 even with 3D's higher ticket prices and a very wide U.S. and Canadian release. (Its 4,115 theaters comprise 2,508 3D locations, including 120 IMAX venues.) Other studios at first thought the toon could zoom between $71.5M-$75M for the weekend, but Disney was right to stay conservative with projections of "just" $68M. Surprising that gross was -10% from Friday despite those Saturday kiddie matinees, indicating that word of mouth wasn't good. It's still a big bump up from the original's $60.1M despite far less favorable reviews. Audiences gave Cars 2 a 'A-' CinemaScore vs 'A' for the first Cars back in 2006 -- but critics called the sequel a lemon and Pixar's worst movie ever because of the lame espionage story and over-use of Larry The Cable Guy (a little of him goes a loooong way). No doubt his good ol' boy tow truck voiceover will go down well in flyover country. But critics expected better of Pixar CEO John Lasseter, the chief creative officer of Walt Disney and Pixar Animation Studios and principal creative adviser of Walt Disney Imagineering, who is returning to the director’s chair for the first time since Cars. Still, the moolah puts the sequel #5 on the Pixar food chain.

But the real platinum lining here is all that Cars-branded merchandise parents are going to buy for their kids. Disney has put 300 or so products on the market -- Cars Kleenex, anyone? -- and Wall Street expects those licensed retail sales to total $10 billion, making it the biggest movie merchandising ever. (Toy Story 3 made about $2.8 billion.) It's a supremely cynical move -- lousy movie, great crap -- that includes a video game releasing Tuesday, ice and stage shows, and a 12-acre Cars Land expected to rejuvenate California Adventure next year. On the other hand, the Pixar brand may wind up hurt by its first bout of bad PR for a company whose first 11 feature-length animated films have earned $6.5 billion at the global box office and 29 Academy Awards. "Families (flyover or not) are deciding for themselves and disregarding reviews," an unconcerned Disney exec replies to me. "Critics not liking a movie doesn't seem like it will hurt the Pixar brand in my opinion. It will be their 12th #1 film in a row and will rank near the top for opening weekends. Should I send you a Larry the Cable Guy DVD?"

Besides its licensing bonanza, Cars 2 builds on the original's brand overseas. Cars 1 made "only" 47.2% of its $462M internationally, so Pixar/Disney decided to rev up the sequel's foreign appeal by sending its vehicles on a race to Tokyo, Italy, London and Paris after the studio found that the tow truck resonated with kids around the world. (The Japanese washlet toilet scene is sight to behold.) Cars 2 is opening in 18 international markets including Italy, Russia, Brazil, Mexico and Australia. Already Russia scored the biggest opening day of all time for a Disney animated film (but there also are more theaters there now than before), while Australia is pitting Cars 2 against Kung Fu Panda 2, and the Pixar film has pulled a little ahead. Even the music is global, with a score by American composer Michael Giacchino, plus alternative rock legend Weezer, country music hitmaker Brad Paisley, best-selling British singer-songwriter Robbie Williams, French superstar Bénabar, and the power pop Japanese girl band Perfume.

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Since there's so much less traffic on Disney Echo lately I'm not going to do too much work on this.  But it's Oscar speculation season, many year-end movies each year are released such that they are fresh in the minds of Motion Picture Academy of Arts and Sciences members to nominate for various Oscar categories.

In the field of animated feature-length movies, usually Pixar and Disney have been present in some way, at least to be nominated for something, anything.

It might be Disney and/or Pixar don't get nominated for Best Animated Feature Oscar this year.  Why?  The article at the link speculates it's because "Cars 2" wasn't very good (released in June 2011 to theaters) and other movies are looking better.

There is also an annual animation industry award called the Annies.  Usually subsets of Oscar categories in their own smaller professional organizations, unions and professional guilds make their own awards, and the Oscars kinda reflect how those awards went.  Would those in the animation industry vote for "Cars 2" if it seems like several other films are as good or better?  And will that spill over into Oscar nominations in January 2012?

Read on.....  At least you see a photo of Pixar head/Walt Disney Feature Animation head/Walt Disney Imagineering head John Lasseter getting a well-deserved star unveiled on the famous Hollywood Walk of Fame November 1.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies....ak.html

I found "Cars 2" to be hugely disappointing when I saw it in theaters.  I have high hopes Pixar can find it's magic again and keep up it's long streak of stellar animated family films.  It's disappointing if the Oscar folks end up not giving a nod to Pixar for the 2012 Oscars, but it would be understandable....and a kick in the pants to set high standards and keep those high standards high and try again with "Brave" in Summer 2012, their next movie.

Besides, the Oscar telecast as entertainment has been tanking in the ratings for years.  New announced host Billy Crystal, older, weight gain on him, but I hope as funny as ever, is replacing Eddie Murphy as show host.  But what people tune in for are to root for beloved movies and favorite actors to win.... It might be "Harry Potter 8"'s year this year, so far the #1 money maker in 2011, in which case that there might not be a Disney or Pixar presence in the nominations won't be noticed, a factor that could be a sigh of relief over at Disney and Pixar movie studios.
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