Disney EchoEar Grand Mouseter
Joined: April 1992
||Posted: Sep. 29, 2012, 5:18 pm
Hi, Disney Echo Members,
In another Topic Site Admin Rich and I are trying to communicate to those infrequently logging on that actually Disney Echo is just plain ol' not nearly as busy as in prior years, and I redirect people to some ideas and suggestions where online and published they can find Disney news, info, travel guidance, community and etc.
It's so very kind that people want to comment on the Topic. However I thought maybe a true discussion Topic about the site getting very slow and less visited might be a better idea. In that way there is truly discussion and sharing, much better community.
So I'll post links so if you're coming in out of the blue you'll know what I'm talking about.
Here is the Topic which explains Disney Echo is much less busy now than a couple of years ago. Go to the end of it for latest update, not Page 1.
DISNEY ECHO RETURNEES: READ THIS TOPIC
I have put together suggestions for our members to use in case they are planning a Disney trip or are cruising around online wondering what's new with Disney, or who want fellow Disney fans to talk to. At this link:
Go to the last post on that page, scroll down for it. Sorry no hot links directly to whatever I recommend Use Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc. for finding the various suggestions and ideas yourself. It is more like shifting the burden and work of digging up Disney information onto the reader rather than a site member, or me or Rich, doing it for you. However, the recommendations are highly 100% solid and sure-fire. Looking for chat and community, breaking Disney news, information, parks or Cruise Line information, what's new? Then follow that second link above, and you'll find it.
Yes, I do know, we all know, it ain't like the good ol' days on Disney Echo, laughter, info, sharing the good times and hard times and sad times in some people's lives while helping each other plan good trips or finding kindred Disney friends we never knew were out there 'til someone joined out site.
But we have to face 2012 and beyond realities. With the increasing popularity of social media and migration from one place to the next on the 'Net that actually is normal and typical of cyberspace, there will always be a new or better site, more up to date info, hand-holding help for trip planners, and people operating the site or sites who are savvy about how to keep a web site or social media useful, newsy, current, and more likely to get direct press releases from Disney.
That's not us anymore.
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, all kinds of other fan sites like Passporter guidebooks', Deb Wills All EArs Net.com, Laughing Place, Mouse Planet, Mice Age, The DIS Boards, and many more….. Tikiman maintains his huge following of fans of WDW's Polynesian Resort. I don't know if Jeff Spencer is still maintaining a news and info and travel guidance site for Fort Wilderness Campground or not. But you get the idea…. Competition, and others frankly have staffs who are still there and work with dedication, year in, year out, to help Disney fans maintain being Disney fans.
That's not us anymore.
Frankly people got up and went, to other social media and other fan sites. Having mobile smart phones and tablet devices has created the phenomenon of "Apps" including from Disney tour guide authors who have come up with interactive ways to have their books be useful for people in the parks or ships who also have mobile tablets or smart phones.
That's not really us, although you can log onto Disney Echo from an iPhone and post to it, it's teeny to read the print and unless you have a fast processor in your iPhone or similar device it's awkward and slow to truly post a conversational note.
So people have migrated away. For whatever reason. Since migration is normal on the Internet and I've been on the Internet since 1991 on Usenet's rec. arts.disney newsgroup, I've seen a lot of people come and go.
With us being slower, and the regular former members and Moderators don't come to actually interact or "work here" anymore, they mostly just "drive by" "just checking to see what's new"…. Any infrequent members don't realize their questions or comments won't be responded to.
I have tried, truly tried, to "goose up" Disney Echo and keep some part of what it was in it's heyday propped up. News. Chat. Info. Frequent updating. Polls. Praying for people.
So if Albert Einstein once said "The definition of insanity is doing the same actions over and over again expecting a different result", I came to realize ol' Albert was one pretty smart guy. After a year to a year and a half of trying I finally gave up Summer 2012.
I'm the mom of a high school age boy who's active in Boy Scouts and marching Band. The school is several miles from our house, and I do volunteer work for the school and participate in a car pool of other families with sons attending this school since it's kinda far from our part of the metro area and they don't offer bus service. Free time I used to have when dear son was younger and pre-high school is a lot less now. Dear Husband Rich is busy in his job too. And we were in our late 30's-early 40's in the 1991 era when we became big Disney fans and "older than that" now and with age and a busy teenage son, and lots of driving going on in our family, something has to give. Rich also has an elderly mother in a memory care assisted living facility out of state from us, and she has some heart problems, too. So we're just cornered with a lot of Real Life offline, no Moderators or active caring frequently logging on members of Disney Echo who could help keep the site newsy, up to date, conversational and enticing. Something has to give.
Rich and I made bigtime friendships in the 1991-late 1990s era on rec. arts.disney Usenet newsgroup and on the Fidonet version of Disney Echo back then. We'd correspond, send Christmas cards, meet up at the parks or at Official Disneyana Conventions. We had a local chapter of a national-international Disney collectors club and we were members and friends with members.
But most assuredly Rich and I do very much understand how much people liked our site, appreciated it's friendly and tolerant tone, and moderating it to keep discussions focused on Disney and not straying off onto tangents. People found big time friends. We prayed over each other's hardships.
That was then, and of value to others, I know. But the people of "then" have "now" mostly migrated away. We don't have today what we did then. It's slower. Weeks and months go by without people doing more than "drive by" or "just checking what's new". That's not really "community", it's peeking in the windows of a once popular store or cafe' and not seeing much going on, they continue walking past.
So there's this "Read this" notice at the first link above. And where people can go to find up to date info, news, community at the second link.
If you want to, post any feelings or discussions in a "Reply". This Topic is the place to express your thoughts.
Others will see what you write, and if they want to will join in.
No we are not closing Disney Echo down, however if I were given power over it I'd stop stringing the site along and I would close it since it's so slow. The site is owned by Larry Gensch aka "lar3ry" and it's his to do with as he wishes, and between Rich and lar3ry they want to still keep it open. However the site will go more and more out of date and new news and new info won't be posted, rendering it's usefulness less so and its community not as worth it. So Rich and lar3ry want to keep the site up, so it shall be. But less updated, newsy.... I don;t have time being the mom of a teenage son, and the Moderators and regular formerly frequent members have moved on. So basically the site is just plain old dormant and outdated now.
Post if you want to any fond memories you had, favorite log on time you had here, if you ever actually had a 'Net Meet with other Disney Echo Members in the parks or near where you live. Post opinions if you want, Or critiques. Get stuff off your chest and vent and opine. Discuss if you have anything good, ,bad, ugly, or in between, to say.
If others are also "driving by" or "just checking in" they will see this Topic in the Scroll Box and maybe respond. And Voila! Community!
But know with certainty: It's NOT ASSURED if you post a new Topic about Disney, ask a question, post news, seek that old time feeling of a site and a community where people logged in multiple times a day to chat with others, or me or Rich or others posting Disney news and tidbits and vicarious trip reports.... It's a hugely slower site than those days, Rich and I have come to accept that over the last 1-2 years and we accept it now.... And in our ways we've moved on, him at work and liking iPhone and Apple products, me being mom of a teenager. We do still like Disney! However it's a different time in our lives, much less time than used to be. And fewer people to post for anymore..... it became not as worth our time. That's why I posted where people could look up info. So few people means teach the few people how to look things up themselves rather than have someone do their work for them.
Sorry.... It's just a different day. We're moving on now, as others have done, but if that's hard for you to do too, we get it, fully understand..... and offer you.... This topic !
So post here whatever you want to in an ongoing discussion about Disney Echo in the past evolving to the present.
BUT: If you want Disney news, info, community, travel guidance.... Go to this link, after clicking it scroll to the last posting, and follow any and all suggestions. 100% guaranteed to work for you !