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Posted: April 30, 2012, 7:00 pm

I'm not "into" the various flavors of comic book blockbuster movies but Disney owns Marvel now, and "The Avengers" opens May 4 in the US. It's already opened overseas, doing fantastic box office.

Some links:

Rotten Tomatoes: 96% Fresh as more reviews pour in. Since the movie has opened outside the US before it opens in the US, those of you looking for reviews might want to tread carefully lest you encounter Spoilers here and there on this site.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marvels_the_avengers/

Official movie promotion website:

http://marvel.com/avengers_movie

Internet Movie Database listing for "The Avengers":

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/

You can Google, if you care, review and parental guidance websites Plugged In Online, Metacritic, Movie Mom, Catholic News Service, Kids In Mind.

Use Google News Advanced Search for news, movie glitz and hype, etc.

So far "The Avengers" has opened since April 26th, 2012 in 11 countries, making $178 million in under a week's time.

Lucrative.

Follow box office at Box Office Mojo.com, if you care.

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avengers11.htm

"Summer" movie season now begins well before Memorial Day. Disney had a big bomb in "John Carter" which opened in March, a family nature film "Chimpanzee" now playing in honor of Earth Day and, well, it's playing in theaters now…… And now with summer movie season here Disney has an early salvo in box office blockbuster wars in "The Avengers". It's not published what the production budget was, but it needs to earn 2.5-3 times production budget worldwide to make a true profit. "John Carter" was such a bomb Disney had to take a $200 million write off and it caused Studio President Richard Ross to fall on his sword and resign recently. With a nice pick up of $178 million in limited worldwide release in a few days, "The Avengers" might do for the Marvel division of Disney Studios what "John Carter" couldn't do for the core studio, and turn a nifty profit….

Or not.

"John Carter's" painful $200 million write off loss means "The Avengers" can on it's own make a ton of money, but for the Studio any mega-profits will be going to pay off bills, namely the black hole of that $200 million write off for "John Carter". While "John Carter" was a major movie bomb, the hopes now are pinned on "The Avengers" to make Disney (and it's stockholders) the money "John Carter" failed to. Heck, if any other Disney or Pixar or marvel or Feature Animation movies in 2012 fail to turn a profit, "The Avengers" might be "saving" their bottoms, and bottom lines, as well. Just depends on how the rest of the year goes, movie-box-office-wise.

As a stockholder in Disney, I'm rooting for "The Avengers". If only to bail Disney out of "John Carter"s big losses. Disney's had a tough couple of years and needs a mega hit, even if the studio making that hit was acquired by corporate acquisition.

Have you seen or plan to see "The Avengers"? Midnight shows even on school-work nights? Opening weekend? Ever? Let us know what you think! Hit "Reply"!

Edited later to add:

Wow! It's up to $185.1 million over five days and 38-39 territories overseas. Disney-Marvel now working with US movie theater owners-chains to open more screens for a May 4 opening. Meltdown at the box office, this movie is that hot right now. Reliable, always fascinating, Nikki Finke at Deadline Hollywood.com has great sources in the movie biz, keep up with her information and insights here, the blog is ongoing....

http://www.deadline.com/2012....-262113

Notice "John Carter" official Disney write off is $200 million after playing for weeks in the US and overseas.... and "The Avengers" in just five days in overseas release nearly makes that amount ($185+ million). Just sayin'..... :dollar:

Disney theme park fans in the recent past and near future will notice big-time promotion in-parks of "The Avengers". Look for the Magic Kingdom WDW hotel loop monorails to have an "Avengers" "skin" overlay to them. Very likely Marvel character meet and greets, etc. Oh yeah I bet themed-logoed merchandise too, and Halloween costumes for October for the kids.... the usual stuff, promotion, and hype as we fans know Disney can do it!

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Posted: May 02, 2012, 3:02 pm

"Marvel's The Avengers" has dipped a bit at Rotten Tomatoes, 118 reviews posted, now at 93% Fresh vs. 96% a couple of days ago. However, it's the highest rated newly opening movie over at RT. If you're looking for a trip to the movie theater this weekend, this is the best reviewed movie, so far... More reviews are always being posted, so before you head out the door this weekend, check the reviews and parental advisory sites.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marvels_the_avengers/

Getting to be more standard nowadays, it's rated PG-13.

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Posted: May 03, 2012, 7:15 pm

92% Fresh, and while it's dipped a bit at Rotten Tomatoes the news is "Marvel's The Avengers" is the best rated movie both newly opening or among others currently playing in theaters now. And Disney now outright owns Marvel. The best bet at the flix if you like the blockbuster comic book movies: "Marvel's The Avengers". So far 168 reviews posted of which just 13 are "Rotten".

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marvels_the_avengers/

PG-13

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Posted: May 04, 2012, 12:17 pm

Nikki Finke at Deadline Hollywood has late breaking word from Disney that worldwide cumulative box office since April 26th is now $322.7 million ! And accumulate as much as $585 million worldwide ! The opening at Midnight shows was big, but didn't break any records, so "The Avengers" will be the newest attempt at blockbuster this year ("The Hunger Games" is tops so far) and will likely place in the Top Ten of 2012 (so far) if not higher very fast.

Follow Nikki's blog here at Deadline Hollywood.com, newest entries are at the top, older entries after that, oldest entry at the end. If link doesn't work, Google DeadlineHollywood.com and just look for anything written by Nikki Finke.

http://www.deadline.com/2012....penings

Box Office Mojo.com's Ray Subers pre-analyzes whether "Marvel's The Avengers" is gonna make it big this weekend (duh, I bet yeah! ) and if so how big. Click the link for more, also usually excellent analysis about movies at this site.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3435&p=.htm

"The Avengers" opened in some countries of the world before the US on April 26, about a week ago and already has raked up $281,100,00 never having shown in the US 'til today's date! No word officially about production costs, but the rule of thumb is "John Carter" by Disney cost $250-$300 million to make and market worldwide, and the experts claimed it needed $600-$650 million (more than double or 2.25 times production costs) to make a profit, which of course we know now it didn't. So if "Marvel's The Avengers" has already raked up $281+ million overseas, and there's still a few countries it's not playing in yet, think how much the US box office and those few final countries could make for Disney-Marvel.

Box Office Mojo.com "The Avengers" foreign box office chart:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=avengers11.htm

Box Office Mojo.com main movie summary page at the site for "The Avengers":

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=avengers11.htm

Box Office Mojo.com "Similar Movies" page, for tracking whether "The Avengers" competes with Similar Movies, makes more or less money than they do.

Notice "The Avengers" major 2012 competition movies open in July 2012: "The Dark Knight Rises" July 20 from Warner Brothers and "The amazing Spider-Man" July 3, 2012.

The biggest opening weekend on the chart "The Dark Knight", Warner Brothers, July 18, 2008 $158,411,483, the biggest total US box office was also "The Dark Knight" $533,345,358.

Biggest Disney/Buena Vista movie opening weekend on the list is "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" July 7, 2006 $135,634,554 and the biggest Disney total US gross box office was also POTC 1 $423,315,812.

Largest number of theaters: Opening weekend "Iron Man 2" 4,380 May 7, 2010 (by that time Disney owned Marvel, but movies in the Paramount production pipeline for Marvel titles were still working their way through, so it was like joint ownership), "The Dark Knight" release 4,366 theaters, and for Disney opening weekend 4,362 for POTC 3 May 25, 2007 and for release in theaters 4,362 also POTC 3 "At World's End".

All four of Disney's POTC movies are on this list, but other than the Marvel-Disney titles also on the list no other Disney movies appear, and the list at the link dates to July 14, 2000 "X-Men".
Disney by acquiring Marvel Entertainment now can compete in the comic book super hero movie genre, and does so by corporate acquisition and not by internally having come up with anything original within the genre other than POTC all these years. Something to ponder….

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies....s11.htm

Reviews and parental guidance links…. Take what you need, leave the rest.

Catholic News Service rates it A-III Adults

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/movies/12mv054.htm

Full Catholic News Service review, quoting from what's at the link:

Marvel's The Avengers

By Adam Shaw
Catholic News Service

NEW YORK (CNS) -- Seemingly destined to haul in wads of cash at the box office, the ensemble adventure "Marvel's The Avengers" (Disney) will not disappoint fans of the comic books on which it's based. But it may prove problematic for the parents of some excited youngsters anxious to ride the juggernaut.

The film has a long pedigree that can ultimately be traced back to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's original comics series from 1963 (Lee serves the screen version as an executive producer).

More recently, it has been foreshadowed with subtle references and clues scattered among the four previously separate superhero franchises that are united here. 2011's "Captain America; The First Avenger," for instance, hinted at a future Avengers movie not only in its title but in a post-credits add-on scene as well.

Writer-director Joss Whedon's script juggles no fewer than six superheroes: Thor (Chris Hemsworth), Iron Man (Robert Downey Jr.), Hulk (Mark Ruffalo), Captain America (Chris Evans), Hawkeye (Jeremy Renner) and Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson).

Led by the eye-patched and grizzled Nick Fury (Samuel L. Jackson), this dream team confronts the mischievous exiled Norse god Loki (Tom Hiddleston). Loki believes freedom is overrated, and has hatched a scheme involving some glowing square that triggers ... Well, who really cares what it triggers? Just sit there and eat your popcorn!

Not to be flippant, but the plot is unashamedly perfunctory, and serves only to place our oddly dressed friends in a situation where they can flex their magic muscles.

And flex they do: "The Avengers" shuns attempts at allegory or subtlety, replacing them with special effects, loud noises and a surprisingly witty sense of humor.

Which is not to say Whedon's plot is entirely shallow. Christian themes concerning the dignity of the person and the value of freedom underlie the hectic proceedings.

Captain America, moreover, is given a bit of dialogue showing him to be a firm believer, not only in Christ but in Jesus' incarnate nature as both God and man. A firm defense of the uniqueness of Christ's nature and role is a welcome surprise in a contemporary Hollywood movie, and, however brief, should be enthusiastically applauded.

But there are also more questionable elements on display amid all the mindless action. Though relatively mild, these troublesome ingredients -- listed below -- will nonetheless raise concerns for some parents, putting them in the uncomfortable position of having to tell the young 'uns under their care that this otherwise thoroughly enjoyable romp is off-limits.

The film contains intense but largely bloodless violence, a few mature references, including to suicide and drug use, and a handful of crass terms. The Catholic News Service classification is A-III -- adults. The Motion Picture Association of America rating is PG-13 -- parents strongly cautioned. Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13.

End of quoted material.

Kids In Mind, Sex and Nudity 2, Violence and Gore 7, Profanity 3

http://www.kids-in-mind.com/a/avengers.htm

Movie Mom Nell Minow at BeliefNet.com B+, lowest recommended age Middle-School:

http://blog.beliefnet.com/moviemom/2012/05/the-avengers.html

Plugged In, family media review service of Dr. Charles Dobson's "Focus on the Family", they note the movie has heart and soul and substance and they seem to like it and moral content of it.

http://www.pluggedin.com/movies/intheaters/avengers.aspx

Metacritic 69 out of 100 with 40 critics ranging from highest 100 to lowest 30.

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-avengers-2012

Rotten Tomatoes went back up to 93% Fresh with 200 reviews posted just 15 of those are Rotten:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marvels_the_avengers/

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Posted: May 05, 2012, 1:45 pm

Disney-Marvel is about to wipe the floor with "The Hunger Games". Wow.

Nikki Finke posts ongoing to existing weekly blog topics at Deadline Hollywood.com. Here's the latest, but here's the link, she'll keep it updated. The original is one long paragraph, I've broken that up to improve readability.

http://www.deadline.com/2012....penings

FRIDAY PM/SATURDAY AM… REFRESH FOR LATEST… What a sensational Summer 2012 kick-off! The first weekend of May is one of the most lucrative release dates each year, especially for Marvel comic book adaptations. And Disney is reporting stronger North American box office for Marvel’s The Avengers in Digital 3D, RealD and IMAX 3D than it dared to hope and even rival studios thought possible.

The Friday opening number is now $80.5 million because late shows were coming on strong for the 2nd biggest single day gross and Friday opening of all time in box office history. That includes a whopping $18.7M midnights – or more than Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Thor, and Captain America combined.

In terms of records, it was the 8th biggest midnights opening, and the biggest superhero midnights debut. IMAX reported $1.31M from midnights playing at 273 locations for a record digital-only release and a sell-out across the board.

Now Disney says the domestic total is on pace for a record-setting $175M through Sunday from 4,349 U.S. and Canadian locations, including 3,364 plays in 3D. This would make it the all-time biggest domestic weekend opening ever. (Past Warner Bros’ 3D Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part 2 which stll holds the Friday opening record of $91M but no longer the first weekend record of $169M.)

Disney also just updated the international gross to $334.3M after adding another $30M Friday.

That would make the worldwide total at least $575M through Sunday with this weekend’s addition of China, Russia, and of course North America.

And, just to rub it in to rival studios, the well-reviewed Avengers also received a rare ‘A+’ CinemaScore from American audiences.

This is the first Marvel Studios film from The Walt Disney Studios which took over marketing and distribution duties from Paramount after CEO/President Bob Iger bought the comics entertainment company – so the pressure was on. (Paramount still gets marquee credit and a portion of the fees.)

Hollywood now is congratulating the filmmakers. ”Freakin’ phenomenal,” one Hollywood studio mogul phoned me Friday night. ”It has a real shot at the record,” another movie boss emailed me.

Why did this superhero actioner do so well at the box office? As one of my commenters succinctly summarizes: “Note to Hollywood: This is what happens when you let comic fans do comic book movies. Joss Whedon knocked it out of the park. The right mix of humor without camp, special effects without overusage, and action with good script. Having actors who like and/or know the characters doesn’t hurt either. Props to the casting folks.”

The Avengers was promoted as “The Super Hero Team Up Of A Lifetime” because it featured all in one pic the iconic Marvel figures Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Nick Fury. The film stars Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo, Chris Hemsworth, Scarlett Johansson, Jeremy Renner, Tom Hiddleston, Stellan Skarsgård, and Samuel L. Jackson. It’s based on the Marvel comic book series “The Avengers” first published in 1963.

Here’s what a phenom this movie is: I learned that the AMC theater chain sold so many Avengers tickets Friday that its entire credit card processing system was delayed so moviegoers couldn’t charge the pic or concession snacks right away. This, after AMC announced it made $4M from the pic overnight. More details below.

No other major pic dared go up against this juggernaut. Holdovers only total $50M this weekend which is looking like $210M – or +33% over last year.

End of quoted material.

"The Hunger Games" had been the #1 top grossing movie in the US in 2012.... 'til now. And "Marvel's The Avengers" may not stand long as #1 when the next Batman movie opens later this summer. As far as Disney recouping $200 million written off by the flop of "John Carter" at least on paper "The Avengers" first profits will go to wipe out that $200 million loss and any other Fiscal Year 2012 movies that Disney's financially disappointed with.

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Posted: May 05, 2012, 8:23 pm

Well, Disney was going to need a superhero effort to get over the John Carter fiasco. Leave it to Stan Lee to come to the rescue!

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Posted: May 06, 2012, 1:17 pm

utilidor, you once commented on the mega-losses "John Carter" and "Mars Needs Moms" had for Disney and that what they had in common was the planet Mars and sci-fi. Well, as they said in "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl" in "this is whatcha call 'ironic'" look at the subsidiary studio that made the movie at hand that Disney acquired by corporate acquisition.... and it's name is part of the movie's title.... "MARvel's The Avengers"! Mars.... MARvel.... get it? Heh...!

So really if Disney had just taken the "s" off "Mars" they would've had two hits on their hands with the other two movies.

But moving on to "Marvel's The Avengers"...... WOW !

Wow, what polar opposites for Disney!

Mega-loss of $200 million for "John Carter" back in March. Mega-win with Disney-Marvel's "Marvel's The Avengers" now. How much of a mega-win? Not only is it grinding "The Hunger Games" the current #1 for 2012 in US Box office into the dirt with it's heel, it's grinding last summer's "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part II" into the dirt with it's heel. That's because "Marvel's The Avengers" made over $200 million in a single weekend, it's opening weekend, whereas "Harry Potter 2011" "only" earned $169+ million it's opening weekend, "The Avengers" shattering the highest grossing opening weekend record of all time "Harry Potter 2011" used to hold 'til now. And worldwide "Marvel's The Avengers" has earned a whopping $640 million and climbing…. meaning it's gonna head towards $1 billion in worldwide gross very fast and challenge prior movies that have made so much moolah in so short a time. Wow! Worldwide it only opened April 26 and this is May 6, just ten days!

Read Nikki Finke, as I always lately recommend….. Wow, Disney-Marvel! I wonder if Andrew Stanton, who made "John Carter" is feeling particularly awful right now? If so, someone give him a hug, he tried his best… but…. Hollywood is just competitive and he should realize that. Anyway, Nikki Finke is blown away, you can tell that by her writing….

http://www.deadline.com/2012....penings

Quoting:

‘THE AVENGERS’ NOW BIGGEST OPENER! Shocking $200M Record Domestic Weekend: Expecting $640+M Global From First 10 Days

By NIKKI FINKE | Sunday May 6, 2012 @ 8:52am PDT

SUNDAY AM… REFRESH FOR LATEST… It’s now official — Marvel’s The Avengers is a monster worldwide hit for Disney in 2D, Digital 3D, RealD, and IMAX 3D theaters. The studio says 52% saw it in 3D, 40% in traditional 3D, 8% in IMAX, and 4% on premium large format. Exit polls showed the actioner attracted a four-quadrant audience with 50% over age 25 and 50% under 25, while 60% were male and 40% female. Also 55% were couples, 24% families, and 21% teens. Hollywood couldn’t be happier because it kicks off the all-important Summer 2012 movie season with sensational numbers.

Avengers lived up to its billing as the ‘Superhero Team-Up Of A Lifetime’ by featuring all-in-one pic the iconic Marvel figures Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Nick Fury. Disney says it’s looking
at a record $69.7M grosses for Saturday after making $80.5M Friday (including $18.7M midnights) from 4,349 U.S. and Canadian locations, including 3,364 plays in 3D. Studio confirms it’s on track to shatter the domestic weekend opening record with $200.3M. (Warner Bros’ 3D Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part 2 finale used to hold that record with $169M.) I believe Disney is being overly conservative and the final figure will exceed that since Avengers should make over $50M on Sunday. (And I thought SNL Kagan’s report predicting that $200M domestic debut before the weekend was nuts. Not now…) Disney will report exact international numbers later Sunday but says the worldwide total is already $640M after playing almost everywhere around the globe for the past 10 days including Russia and now China. Jeremy Renner (Hawkeye) went to the Beijing Film Festival to help open the film Saturday. One more thing to keep in mind: Avengers accumulated a massive foreign number without opening yet in the major market of Japan. Globally, IMAX Avengers grossed $21.1+M this weekend and the global IMAX cume will be approx $31.2M as of Sunday night. IMAX Avengers brought in $6.1 mil internationally (which includes an amazing first day gross in China of $1.1M) on 174 digital-only locations. In North America IMAX had one big issue: it ran out of seats to sell. Avengers grossed $15+M domestically on 275 digital-only IMAX screens, which looks to be a virtual tie with the Harry Potter finale for the highest grossing opening weekend in IMAX’s history. It reports 17 of the top 20 engagements in North America playing the film were IMAX runs, and 110 domestic IMAX locations established a new opening Saturday record. The global pressure was on because Avengers is the first Marvel Studios film from The Walt Disney Studios which took over marketing and distribution duties from Paramount. Disney CEO/President Bob Iger bought the comics entertainment company for $4 billion in 2009. Paramount still gets marquee credit and a portion of the fees. (I’m told that when Disney bought the distribution of Avengers and Iron Man 3, Paramount was paid a minimum of $115M. It gets the higher of the $115M or the combination of its 8% fee on Avengers, plus 9% on next years Iron Man 3. “Looks like there will be overages!” a Paramount exec told me excitedly Sunday. Paramount also kept the pay rights as part of the deal so Avengers will debut on Epix.) Why did this superhero actioner do so well at the box office? As one of my commenters succinctly summarizes: “Note to Hollywood: This is what happens when you let comic fans do comic book movies. Joss Whedon knocked it out of the park. The right mix of humor without camp, special effects without overusage, and action with good script. Having actors who like and/or know the characters doesn’t hurt either. Props to the casting folks.” More details below.

No other major pic dared go up against this juggernaut. Holdovers only total $45M this weekend which is looking like $230M – or +38% over last year. Here’s the Top 10 (based on weekend estimates):

1. Marvel’s The Avengers (Disney) NEW [4,349 Theaters] PG13 Friday $80.5M, Saturday $69.7M, Weekend $200M, Global $640M

2. Think Like A Man (Screen Gems/Sony) Week 3 [2,010 Theaters] PG13 Friday $2.6M, Saturday $3.3M, Weekend $8.0M, Cume $73.0M

3. The Hunger Games (Lionsgate) Week 7 [2,794 Theaters] PG13 Friday $1.6M, Saturday $2.6M, Weekend $5.7M, Cume $380.7M

4. Pirates! Band of Misfits 3D (Aardman/Sony) Week 2 [3,358 Theaters] PG Friday $1.3M, Saturday $2.4M, Weekend $5.4M (-51%), Cume $18.3M

5. The Lucky One (Warner Bros) Week 3 [3,005 Theaters] PG13 Friday $1.9M, Saturday $2.3M, Weekend $5.4M, Cume $47.8M

6. The Five-Year Engagement (Universal) Week 2 [2,941 Theaters] R Friday $1.7M, Saturday $2.2M, Weekend $5.2M, Cume $19.3M

7. The Raven (Relativity) Week 2 [2,209 Theaters] R Friday $844K (-62%), Saturday $1.1M, Weekend $2.6M, Cume $12.1M

8. Safe (Lionsgate) Week 2 [2,271 Theaters] R Friday $825K (-66%), Saturday $1.0M, Weekend $2.5M, Cume $12.9M

9. Chimpanzee (Disneynature) Week 3 [1,531 Theaters] PG Friday $707K, Saturday $975K, Weekend $2.3M, Cume $22.9M

10. The Three Stooges (Fox) Week 4 [2,174 Theaters] PG Friday $480K, Saturday $850K, Weekend $1.8M, Cume $39.6M

End of quoted material.

Charts at BoxOfficeMojo.com take a look!

Top Opening Weekends of All Time, "Marvel's The Avengers" now #1 for Disney.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/

Top US Box Office for the Year 2012, "Marvel's The Avengers" now #3 !

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2012&p=.htm

Top Grosses, US, of All Time Unadjusted for Ticket Price Inflation, "Marvel's The Avengers" is now #119 on the list (see second page of it at the link):

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm?page=1&p=.htm

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm?page=2&p=.htm

Top Foreign Box Office of All time Unadjusted for Ticket Price Inflation, #55 is "Marvel's The Avengers":

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

"Marvel's The Avengers" will obviously move it's way up on these lists as it continues playing in the US and worldwide. It's such a huge hit, it will displace other earlier movie hits. Just keep checking the lists!

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Posted: May 06, 2012, 10:43 pm

Carol a great big :rimshot:

to you! The punmister may have competition!

When the dust all settles and the profits are shown I think that in reflection Disney's aquisition of Marvel was actually, well, quite Marvelous (despite my previous misgivings). I just hope that this doesn't usher in an era of constant attention to the Marvel characters at the expense of the original Disney ones, much as what happened with Pixar.

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Posted: May 13, 2012, 6:25 pm

I'll just post this link: "Marvel's The Avengers" in it's second weekend at the box office in the US is just grinding other movies and studios into the dust with it's heel. Massively #1 in the US and worldwide. It's now setting second weekend top box office records. In just a few million bucks "Marvel's the Avengers" will knock off "The Hunger Games" as the #1 movie in the US for the year 2012 Year To Date.

http://www.deadline.com/2012....dnights

Disney has a complex agreement with Paramount. There is a percentage of the profits contract to share about 8% of the gross of "The Avengers" and "Iron Man 3" with Paramount. Considering that "Marvel's the Avengers" is a huge box office phenom going on now, 8% of potentially a billion bucks going to Paramount has Paramount thrilled to pieces.

Disney having a juggernaut to offset "John Carter's" losses might thrill Disney. But after all these contracts get paid off, I wonder, really, how much is left for Disney? Still, any income is better than no income, and Disney can use the money!

At the link following Nikki Finke's analysis of this weekend's box office are Comments. Follow me for a second....

The major Hollywood roll-out this weekend was Warner Brothers "Dark Shadows", based on the 1960s-early 1970s TV gothic soap opera TV series from Dan Curtis Productions. It stars Johnny Depp as vampire Barnabas Collins and also has Michelle Pfeffer (sp?), Helean Bonham Carter and other stars, and cameo appearances from four (then still living) original TV series actors including from Jonathan "Barnabas Collins" Frid before he died in April 2012 before the movie opened.

At a budget of $150-$175 million, it's an expensive movie to have made. But DS made an anemic $28 all weekend. Produced by Tim Burton ("Alice in Wonderland" and "the Nightmare Before Christmas" for Disney) and starring in their eighth professional collaboration together with Johnny Depp, the film should have worked. Depp is now transitioning from being an in-demand actor to owning his own film company and coming up with his own movie ideas. Depp in fact helped produce "Dark Shadows". And Depp's first movie as part producer "Dark Shadows" is, well, sputtering on it's opening weekend.

OK, what does this have to do with Disney?

Depp has projects coming up with Disney as both an actor ("The Lone Ranger" as Tonto and a POTC 5 as Captain Jack Sparrow) and actor-producer (a version of the midnight ride of Paul Revere). Time Burton this fall 2012 has a stop-motion movie "Frankenweenie" about a mad scientist boy who brings his pet dog who died back to life a la the story of "Frankenstein". The collaboration of Depp and Disney and Tim Burton with Disney and Depp have been lucrative, all four POTC movies and the "Alice In Wonderland" movie made tons of money for everyone of these people.

But in the Comments following Nikki Finke's analysis of the failure of "Dark Shadows" to launch it has some implications. for Disney. And Depp's and Tim Burton's future projects.

Gleaning through all those Comments: People are getting critical of the "one trick pony" shows of Tim Burton and Johnny Depp. Bizarre costuming, wigs and make-up for Depp (think of Depp playing Willie Wonka in "Charlie & the Chocolate Factory" or the wig, costume and make-up for the four POTC movies and the wig, costume and make-up as The Mad Hatter in "Alice in Wonderland", and the future wig, costume and make-up as Tonto in "The Lone Ranger"). We have remakes and/or sequels and/or remakes of TV shows from the 1960s or earlier going on, or an earlier movie. Tim Burton takes source material and twists them around, leaving whatever is "original" about the source material in the dust. People are getting tired of the repetitions from both Burton and Depp. Even if with "The Lone Ranger" Depp's working with Jerry Bruckheimer again and not with Tim Burton. In short: They are thinking there's no longer anything original, just Depp walking through it to collect the paychecks. No creative challenges for him. And when he does act in smaller pictures it's non-money makers or inconsequential like "The Tourist".

"Frankenweenie" comes out in the Fall of 2012, and "The Lone Ranger" in May 2013. If the chatters and idle speculators are right in their Comments following Nikki Finke's column at the link, Depp and Burton and Disney might be in some trouble and peaking or past peaking in their careers, and just making movies for the sake of the paychecks instead of the art of it. And we've seen Jerry Bruckheimer's projects for Disney also failing to do well at the box office, except the 4th POTC movie, and even that made less money than the prior three.

Burton's next project in 2012 is in June, a summer flick film adaptation of the book "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter". Yes, that's a real book, and it's a real movie, and the trailer shows the 16th Presidents of the US, in Civil War times, doing "Matrix"-like moves as he battles forces of the supernatural such as vampires and zombies. Seriously. And if it's bizarre and twisted and might make movie money profits, can Tim Burton be far away from it, in this case, he's a producer of it. He works for a couple of studios, and it's NOT a Disney movie, but my point is that Burton does do some projects for Disney. In fact, Tim Burton is formerly with Disney Feature Animation.

"Dark Shadows" had the professional bad luck of opening when "Marvel's The Avengers", doe by Disney-Marvel, is rolling over everyone with it's car, putting the car in reverse, and rolling over them again, box office-wise. And DS stars a star in Depp and a producer in Burton who both also do projects for Disney.

Bears watching.

Disney has this hit movie mainly because they bought Marvel, and though this particular movie is the first that went through production and release totally owned by Disney and not by Paramount, that doesn't mean Disney's film studio in other respects is turning out hits. Coming in June is "Brave" from their Pixar division, and after a year ago "Cars 2" performed less well than hoped and was the first Pixar film to earn a Rotten rating at RottenTomatoes, Disney has to figure out how to turn box office gold and international good will from "The Avengers" to get people to watch their other movies. If two of the stars in Disney's celestial heavens, Depp and Burton, or three if you count Jerry Bruckheimer, are showing "anemic" work products to audiences, even if made by other studios, that bodes a potential red flag of caution for Disney later on with "Frankenweenie", "The Lone Ranger" and Depp's movie about Paul Revere. Disney needs bright and shiny stars and marquee people behind the scenes if they are to overcome the bad reputation of "John Carter", Disney doesn't need "anemic" anything or anybody at this point.

Bears watching. Just saying.

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Posted: May 18, 2012, 3:26 pm

Wow!

Who remembers "John Carter" any more?

Disney's studio got a new lease on life post-"John Carter" loss write off. "Marvel's The Avengers" is wiping the floor with everybody now, box office-wise, a massive mega-hit domestically and internationally!

Read on, Nikki Finke of Deadline Hollywood and later from BoxOfficeMojo.com

http://www.deadline.com/2012....ng-film

Quoting:

‘Avengers’: $400M In 14 Days Sets New Domestic Speed Record; #6 All Time Highest Grossing Film
By NIKKI FINKE | Friday May 18, 2012 @ 8:22am PDT

Marvel’s The Avengers on Thursday set a new domestic speed
record, reaching the $400M box office threshold in 14 days. Worldwide, it has passed Toy Story 3 and Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest to become the #6 highest-grossing film of all time and the highest grossing Disney release ever. Internationally it is the #9 highest-grossing film of all time.

The Avengers’ cumulative performance to date:

International box office $668.7M and Domestic $402M for Global $1,070.7M.

Additional highlights to date:

· Fastest film to reach $350M (10 days), $300M (9 days), $250M (6 days), $200M (3 days), $150M (3 days) and $100M (2 days) at domestic box office.

· Disney’s fifth release to cross the billion dollar global box office threshold.

· Biggest domestic opening of all time ($207.4M).

· Biggest domestic second weekend of all time ($103M).

· Highest-grossing domestic film of 2012, passing The Hunger Games in just 12 days of release, and is now the 12th highest grossing domestic release of all-time.

· Highest domestic Saturday tally ($69.5M).

· Highest domestic Sunday tally ($57M).

· Second-highest domestic single-day tally ($80.8M).

End of quoted material.

Quoting:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3444&p=.htm

Forecast: 'Battleship' Will Likely Miss 'Avengers'
by Ray Subers

May 17, 2012

Three new nationwide releases attempt to dethrone box office sensation The Avengers this weekend, though it's unlikely any of them come very close. Battleship has the best shot at 3,690 locations, but the rampant cynicism surrounding the project should keep the movie from reaching blockbuster levels. Meanwhile, What to Expect When You're Expecting tries to reach female audiences at 3,021 theaters, while The Dictator will attempt to build on its decent $4.18 million Wednesday opening at 3,008 venues.   

Battleship is the third Hasbro product to get the big-budget, big-screen treatment in the past five years following Transformers and G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra. All three Transformers movies made over $300 million at the domestic box office, while G.I. Joe earned a respectable $150.2 million. Those movies were logical extensions of character-driven action figure brands, though, and they had already been proven from a story-telling perspective with comic books and animated TV series. Battleship, on the other hand, is adapted from a strategy-based board game where two players attempt to sink each other's NAVY ships: there are no characters, and there are definitely no aliens. As a result, this adaptation has generated almost non-stop negative press since its inception.   

In an attempt to get some positive momentum and take advantage of April holidays in Europe, Battleship has already opened in most overseas markets and has earned a solid $215.3 million through Sunday. That's not an overly impressive number, though, and any buzz that would have generated has been counteracted by scathing reviews out of English-speaking countries like the United Kingdom and Australia. The tune didn't change much when American critics got a look: while reviews commend the movie for its technical proficiencies, it gets slammed in nearly every other department and currently has a poor 37 percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

Battleship does at least look like it delivers the goods in the action department, and big-budget alien invasion spectacles usually perform well at the Summer box office (though Cowboys & Aliens is an example of a recent disappointment). Unfortunately, the movie is running headfirst in to the path of The Avengers, which targets a similar audience with its alien invasion storyline. Battleship probably won't outright bomb this weekend, but an opening above $50 million looks almost impossible at this point.  

To counterprogram the noisy, effects-driven action of The Avengers and Battleship, Lionsgate is releasing pregnancy comedy What to Expect When You're Expecting. The strategy of creating a story based on a popular self-help book and populating the movie with a likeable ensemble cast was just successfully pulled off last month with Think Like a Man ($82.8 million so far). That movie had date night appeal, though, while a movie about the challenges of pregnancy isn't exactly something men are going to be eager to see. To combat that, Lionsgate's campaign has put a large emphasis on the movie's "Dudes Group," which is basically a bunch of dads goofing off with their young children when the wives aren't around. These ads never quite connected, though, and they distracted from the central story about a handful of expectant couples. In recent weeks, the focus has turned back towards the main women in these couples, though, and the movie should do solid business as a result.

  The Dictator opened to $4.18 million on Wednesday, which rules out any possibility that it will be a MacGruber-esque flop (that data does include some late Wednesday grosses, though, which Paramount is unfortunately not reporting separately). The audience skewed male (65 percent) and younger (56 percent under the age of 25), indicating that star Sacha Baron Cohen's outrageous comedy is once again appealing to college-aged males. Unfortunately, it's still unclear if his shtick is going to play outside of that group this time around. Politically subversive movies don't generally jive with audiences—Team America: World Police only earned $32.8 million in 2004—and The Dictator's not-very-kind views towards gays, minorities and women are a tough sell. It is the first R-rated comedy of Summer, though, and the title character skews much closer to Borat ($128.5 million) than Bruno ($60.1 million), so it could still wind up playing well.   

Forecast (May 18-20): 

1. The Avengers - $53.2 million (-48%)
 2. Battleship - $38.7 million 
3. What to Expect - $21.9 million  
4. The Dictator - $17.5 million ($24.5 million five-day) 
5. Dark Shadows - $14.6 million (-51%)  

Bar for Success 

Battleship is a big-budget action movie with a recognizable brand and a huge marketing campaign behind it, so it really ought to be earning at least $50 million in its opening weekend. What to Expect When You're Expecting and The Dictator are both in fine shape if they get to $25 million for their three-day and five-day weekends, respectively.   

Become a fan of Box Office Mojo on Facebook. On Twitter, follow us at @boxofficemojo, and follow author Ray Subers at @raysubers.

End of quoted material.

Take a look at Box Office Mojo's charts:

Box Office Mojo 2012 US Top Box Office, "Marvel's The Avengers" the #1 movie of 2012…. so far this summer movie season.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2012&p=.htm

All Time US Box Office Unadjusted for Ticket price Inflation, "Marvel's The Avengers" #13, so far this summer, of all time….

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm

All Time Worldwide Top Grossing Movies, "Marvel's The Avengers" #9, so far this summer of all time…. It's just outgrossed "Alice in Wonderland" and "POTC: At World's End". And it's about to very soon overtake "POTC: On Stranger Tides", "Toy Story 3" and "POTC: Dead Man's Chest" made by Disney or Disney Pixar.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

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